17 comments

  • inahga 1 hour ago
    I probably would have made the same mistake. It is negligent to write GitHub Actions without using static analysis.

    Use zizmor in CI https://github.com/zizmorcore/zizmor

        error[template-injection]: code injection via template expansion
          --> .github/workflows/jira_issue.yml:24:29
           |
        22 |         run: |
           |         --- this run block
        23 |           # Escape special characters in title and body
        24 |           TITLE=$(echo '${{ github.event.issue.title }}' | sed 's/"/\\"/g' | sed "s/'/\\\'/g")
           |                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ may expand into attacker-controllable code
           |
           = note: audit confidence → High
           = note: this finding has an auto-fix
    • btown 1 hour ago
      This is a really cool tool! Would zizmor have caught the below as well? From the article:

      > The workflow had an if: condition that appeared protective:

      > if: (github.event_name == 'issues' && github.event.pull_request.user.login != 'whitesource-for-github-com[bot]')

      > However, on issues events, github.event.pull_request is always null. So the condition reduces to (null != 'whitesource-for-github-com[bot]'). This is always true, and every GitHub user passes the gate.

      Speaking broadly: it's a massive reminder that AI is trained on a veritable mountain of insecure GitHub Actions examples, many of which "fail open" in highly unpredictable ways even if widely used. Actions is almost unique in this regard, with the combination of a difficult-to-audit language and the type of privileged RCE environment that makes attackers salivate.

      (I do think that this stems in part from GitHub's often-inscrutable documentation, and a decision to release Actions without a robust security linting solution, leaving that to the community - but I do understand how it's an uphill battle, and we could have ended up with a much less flexible CI/CD system without this having shipped fast.)

      • woodruffw 9 minutes ago
        zizmor wouldn’t catch that condition at the moment, although it does have similar checks for other unsound conditions and incorrect/vulnerable bot actor checks. This one wouldn’t be too hard to add, though.

        (Source: I am zizmor’s maintainer.)

    • brewmarche 1 hour ago
      I get scared when I see these string interpolations in GitHub Actions.

      Use `env:` instead and just work with environment variables in your shell script.

      Yes, you still need to vet your script. Quoting is a common source of problems. Use shellcheck. Do not call eval/source/python/perl/whatever with untrusted input.

      But you removed one layer of problems already by not pasting a value into your shell script code directly.

    • saghm 21 minutes ago
      Shell scripts on their own already are so perilous without static analysis. I'll never understand how we ended up deciding to embed them in yaml instead of requiring an external script file was a reasonable idea.
    • dataflow 1 hour ago
      Would it be fair to say the blame falls squarely on Github? Why do they even allow pasting of arbitrary strings from a title directly into a script? And if they feel there is a reason, what did they imagine the safe way to do it was?
    • netdevphoenix 1 hour ago
      Difference is you are not a trillion dollar plus technology hyped as a harbinger of civilisational change.
      • bonoboTP 26 minutes ago
        It can be that while also causing problems. It's like when a self driving car crashes, it's big news and everyone runs around like their pants are on fire. When a human driver crashes, it's a blip on local news or not even that.
      • inahga 41 minutes ago
        Sadly I'm not. Either way, how LLMs work mean that traditional software analysis tools are every bit as important as they were in the before times. This is why we see a lot of hype around LLMs and formal verification.
      • SV_BubbleTime 1 hour ago
        I mean… it’s only Monday!

        But yes, there is an interesting change in the past decade, where everything new must be over-hyped.

        Perhaps it is attention overload and needing to shout. Perhaps it’s that technological progress has significantly slowed while communication options have exploded (coincidence?).

        I look at it a lot like EVs. They’re great, if your use case is inside the specific band. But, that isn’t who they were being marketed to. And now… “pushback” is putting it lightly.

    • madeofpalk 1 hour ago
      Github Actions is actually so incredibly scary to have on public repo. It's full of so many footguns that's far from obvious.

      It's a shame Github is buried under their current server issues, because it would be great to get improvements all of this - at least warning/erroring on these sorts of things themselves.

    • IncreasePosts 12 minutes ago
      Is that project named after the serial nyc subway advertising dermatologist?
      • tingletech 6 minutes ago
        yes, it says "Now you can have beautiful clean workflows!" and links to a youtube video of a TV ad for a dermatologist.
    • cryo32 11 minutes ago
      Proof that LLMs are trained on mediocre shit. That is by definition, mediocre shit.
  • mjr00 2 hours ago
    It's interesting to look at what was being attempted when the vulnerability was introduced[0]

    > Workflows like jira_close.yml use deprecated atlassian JIRA actions and have a dependency on the gh-actions repo. This is not ideal and unecessarily complex. PR updates jira_close workflow to use direct API calls via curl. It preserves custom fields used too.

    I won't speak to this projects' management and how they prioritize things, but from my own experience, pre-AI, this type of change would have been firmly in the "this is a minor annoyance, put it in the Tech Debt Backlog alongside the 50000 other tickets" and never actually done. The cost of a human investing the time understanding how to fix the problem, doing code changes, testing them, and deploying them is just way too high for what actual value this change brings, which is close to nothing.

    Now with AI, it's as simple as firing up an agent and telling them to make a change; as much effort as writing that backlog Jira ticket in the first place.

    Similar to the problem open source is having with low-value PRs, companies are going to have to start realizing that code is not free to review or maintain, even when it's generated for ~free, in their internal processes. Just because an agent can fix a minor tech debt annoyance with a few lines of instructions doesn't mean it should.

    [0] https://github.com/snowflakedb/snowflake-connector-net/pull/...

    • fg137 1 hour ago
      I have seen plenty of "my backlog has never been shorter" comments here.

      I'm interested in how that turns out 6 months later.

      In my team, we have plenty of enhancement requests from users. We address those that make obvious sense and are trivial to do but withhold from others, even though the code change itself is likely small. Because we don't know if there is more than a single user that can actually benefit from it, if it has unintended consequences, or if it causes maintainence issue down the road.

      • ctoth 1 hour ago
        > but withhold from others, even though the code change itself is likely small.

        Prediction: programming is going to change massively not only because the cost of creating code will go down, but because people are so tired of this sort of gatekeeping "we know better" from programmers.

        • ljm 4 minutes ago
          This describes a product with no vision or purpose.

          People have to take 'no' for an answer sometimes, even if they don't accept it. You can't really 'gatekeep' your own product.

        • eterm 1 hour ago
          What you're describing as "gatekeeping" is actually Product Ownership and should be applauded, because the alternative is a product owner who abdicates responsibility to the customer.
        • datadrivenangel 45 minutes ago
          And the software without gatekeepers will be regarded as confusing and complicated or buggy.

          The work to go from software to usable software system is vast.

        • mjr00 1 hour ago
          > Prediction: programming is going to change massively not only because the cost of creating code will go down, but because people are so tired of this sort of gatekeeping "we know better" from programmers.

          I assume the "gatekeeping" decision to not implement a feature request is coming from someone responsible for the product, not from a developer.

  • CodeWithLeo 31 minutes ago
    The interesting lesson here isn't really “AI generated insecure code.” We've had insecure code for decades. The bigger issue is that AI makes it much cheaper to introduce changes, while the cost of reviewing those changes hasn't gone down nearly as much.

    The bottleneck is moving from code generation to code verification.

  • procone 2 hours ago
    YAML is a nightmare fuel spec.

    In its quest to make markup "human readable", it has created countless footguns.

    I honestly prefer XML at this point.

    • doix 1 hour ago
      Yeah, the YAMLification of everything kinda killed my ability to understand "everything". Previously, if you knew the Linux userland well, I felt like you could figure anything out with enough digging.

      Take CI for example, it was Jenkins and it ran a csh/bash/zsh whatever script and captured the output. Nice and simple (even if the scripts sometimes got insane).

      GitHub actions is nothing like that. Weird home grown extensions to YAML with their own idiosyncrasies and dynamically pulling in plugins from god knows where. You can't just take a workflow and execute it locally like you could with a bash script.

      • jeroenhd 15 minutes ago
        The things done in yaml today would've been obscure bash oneliners had YAML not existed.

        Jenkins still exists and it's no less complicated than Github Actions. The complexity gets hidden in obscure script files, obscure tabbed UI, and remote services for doing things Jenkins itself can't do. Defaulting to system tooling makes it almost impossible to predict what a job will do unless you know exactly how paths and tooling are set up (and what versions they're running).

        None of my personal experiences with Jenkins had scripts that ran locally, they all relied on pre-installed software on the server because that was the thing people would do before the great YAMLification. You could copy-paste the Jenkins job, but unless you have Jabberwocky v2018.3 installed in /home/JabberWock/RELEASE, the script will fail.

        The entire software development flow has been made incredibly complex by hooking up automations into every nook and cranny.

        All of these complications need to be enabled manually, though. If your flow is complicated, you can cut it down to manageable size by doing a few more processes manually.

        Luckily, all of the simplication and reproduction steps for Github also apply to Jenkins. Github YAML files are just scripts with different syntax, after all. Just like you can run bash locally, you can run act and reproduce whatever Github trigger you need. From there, you can simplify pipelines, stop curl2bashing "plugins", and so on.

      • muvlon 1 hour ago
        And worse: GitHub Actions not a full-fledged programming environment by itself either, so you're inevitably going to have to deal with nontrivial shell scripts on top of all the YAML mess.
        • fragmede 1 hour ago
          Yeah. It makes sense when you're standing right next to it, but you take a step back and go "that doesn't look right". GitHub actions is the faster horse instead of a car.
    • anonymars 2 hours ago
      In a similar vein, JSON's lack of comments makes me marvel at how consistently JavaScript seems to choose the worse option. I'm oh so glad it found its way into config files
      • an0malous 1 hour ago
        Seems more like the opposite vein, JSON's lack of comments or other affordances has kept it safe from footguns
        • madeofpalk 1 hour ago
          Of all the problems with YAML, how is comments a footgun?
          • an0malous 59 minutes ago
            > or other affordances
      • xgulfie 1 hour ago
        I've seen people put "//" keys in their json lol
        • reddalo 37 minutes ago
          I've also seen using "__" as a key for comments. I think it's better because it doesn't need to be escaped.
        • hutattedonmyarm 22 minutes ago
          There _is_ a json variant with comments, so that’s what you’ve seen. Not all parsers support that though
          • jeroenhd 13 minutes ago
            It's non-standard JSON, so you can probably just assume most patsers don't support any given commented parser.

            At least XML permitted comments, fhe shift to JSON on everything almost makes me nostalgic.

          • xgulfie 9 minutes ago
            Are you denying what I've seen with my own eyes? I am saying it was an object like this:

            { "//":"make sure these are divisible by 8", "width": 640, "height": 480 }

        • stronglikedan 43 minutes ago
          It's not terrible as far as I know, and it's less ambiguous than putting a "comment" key. I like it!
    • fmbb 2 hours ago
      It’s find for actions and workflows as long as you do no interpolation and logic.

      Better move as much of that as possible into your own scripts. And your scripts can be portable between forges, and even run locally!

      • RHSeeger 2 hours ago
        The YAML spec/parse _itself_ does interpolation and logic - incorrectly in some cases. YAML is pretty much never the right solution.
      • NewJazz 2 hours ago
        Assigning an env var to an empty variable (env: { myvar: ${{unsetfoo}} }) should trigger an error, not silently pass an empty string.
        • ezfe 2 hours ago
          What does that have to do with YAML?
          • NewJazz 1 hour ago
            It has to do with the gha bastardization of yaml, which clearly learned nothing from ansible's deficiencies.
      • formerly_proven 2 hours ago
        > It’s find for actions and workflows as long as you do no interpolation and logic.

        How do you specify actions and workflows without interpolation and logic kind sir?

        • NewJazz 1 hour ago
          Run the same script for all of the workflow triggers and pass relevant vars into the script as environment variables.
    • voakbasda 23 minutes ago
      When I see YAML in a product tech stack, I know that the developers have probably made other similarly poor life decisions and try to steer clear of the entire iceberg.
    • hbn 1 hour ago
      I never figured out how the hell to write YAML and I definitely won't now that I trust the AI to do a better job than me. It's so unintuitive.

      Every time I've tried in the past, something as simple as making a value a list had some nonsense expectations. I can't wrap my head around how that spec got any traction and wasn't laughed off the face of the earth the first time it was looked at by someone who didn't create it.

    • cgannett 2 hours ago
      And thus procone spoketh the truth.
      • codeduck 2 hours ago
        In accordance with the prophecy.
  • vultour 2 hours ago
    The first linked PR (#1218) has only one commit co-authored by Copilot and it's not related to the vulnerability, and neither are the other suggestions in the PR. Am I missing something?
  • sippeangelo 3 hours ago
    The title is actually "Wiz Red Agent Finds Its Way Into Snowflake’s Internal Jira Due to an AI-Generated GitHub Copilot Autofix"
  • cowthulhu 42 minutes ago
    This really shows why most languages evaluate all NULL comparisons to FALSE.

    For something as critical as Actions, it’s crazy to me that they wouldn’t fail-closed, and instead fail open when encountering a null. Scary stuff!

  • teraflop 2 hours ago
    > The workflow had an if: condition that appeared protective:

    > if: (github.event_name == 'issues' && github.event.pull_request.user.login != 'whitesource-for-github-com[bot]')

    > However, on issues events, github.event.pull_request is always null.

    This is extra dumb because even if you thought this condition was correctly testing the user's identity, it shouldn't have "appeared protective" upon even a moment's thought. If it worked correctly, it would obviously just exclude one bot user while allowing all other users, so it wouldn't provide any protection at all.

    But more likely, this condition was never intended to be "protective" at all, and it's only being described that way because the writeup is LLM slop.

  • johnwils 1 hour ago
    The env + jq was there on purpose. Autofix swapped it for a string in a shell. That's the part that needed a person on the diff.
  • chrisjj 2 hours ago
    > a single quote in the title breaks out of echo '...' and allows arbitrary command execution.

    Quote injection still alive and well in 2026. Gawd.

    • myself248 1 hour ago
      It's appalling that computing in general, and unix in particular, seems to have this habit of intermingling payload and overhead.

      It's like in-band signalling in the telephone network, where if you whistled the right tones into your call, you could affect the way the network processed said call. Except Ma Bell responded to that system being exploited by designing a comprehensive overhaul of the way signalling was handled, and spent a squadzillion dollars upgrading millions of tons of switching equipment to categorically exclude that entire class of attack from ever being possible.

      Software, on the other hand, would need to replace no equipment whatsoever. Existing processors are perfectly capable of running code that handles the length of a string separately from its contents. There are existing languages that do this, they're just.... not used. String escapes and buffer overflows exist, going on decades now, due to nothing more than laziness, inertia, and negligence.

    • danqqqq 2 hours ago
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  • TheRealPomax 2 hours ago
    No, Snowflake allowing autofixes compromised their Jira. If you tell someone to shoot you in the foot, and they shoot you in the foot, you shot yourself in the foot, just with more steps. If someone else finds the memo that says you've set up foot shooting as a service, and then they trigger that service, you still shot yourself in the foot.
    • rawgabbit 2 hours ago
      Help me understand. Snowflake configured their Github repo to allow auto fixes by Copilot. It got merged automatically without anyone's review? And introduced essentially script-injection vulnerability through the title field?

      If this is the case, I would say Snowflake should shut down its repo and get off Github asap.

      • rafram 1 hour ago
        No. A Snowflake maintainer opened a PR, Copilot suggested a change (introducing a vulnerability), the maintainer accepted and committed it to their PR, and another Snowflake maintainer approved and merged the PR.
        • lelanthran 1 hour ago
          And that's going to continue because no one is reading the code even when they approve it.

          It's a very strange thing indeed, but not unexpected: we warned that skills not used will eventually atrophy.

        • rawgabbit 39 minutes ago
          Thanks.
  • kozikow 31 minutes ago
    Issues will happen AI, or not AI. It's same as "self driving car made an accident"!

    I'm not saying blindly trusting auto-fix is not bad. I'm just saying that interpreting singular issue as way to downplay AI-assisted engineering without giving a "denominator" is not honest reporting.

  • forestry 3 hours ago
    Peer review of changes is still important.
    • throwlifeaway 53 minutes ago
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    • Rumudiez 3 hours ago
      Multi-model cross-review is important
      • _joel 2 hours ago
        I'm all for using a council of LLMs, I wrote a tool for it https://github.com/joelio/owl - but you still need to read through PRs yourself, at the very least.
      • acedTrex 2 hours ago
        It's not actually, thats just shoving more shit into the shit pipeline.

        Humans need to review this stuff yall there's no way around that, apparently to some, very inconvenient reality.

        • devin 2 hours ago
          It’s clear that they want this to be true so bad that they’re just not going to do it, and will spend a ton of money on quality gates and mitigation strategies instead of just reading some code.
    • Twirrim 3 hours ago
      You can't rely on people spotting the significance of such changes
      • eithed 3 hours ago
        Tests would have caught it = https://github.com/rhysd/actionlint injection check
      • dv_dt 2 hours ago
        I have been talking to people who want to autoreview and autoapprove "minor" AI prs. For security especially, I think if the models weren't enough to prevent the issues, they aren't enough to judge what is minor.
      • fn-mote 3 hours ago
        ^^

        Absolutely.

        Nothing in the PR jumps out as a red flag. Unless you know how the internals work, I suppose.

        • larsonian 2 hours ago
          Are you kidding? It's a very obvious case of quote injection. Not some subtle race condition or anything.
          • joombaga 1 hour ago
            I think it's obvious too. I'd call out any case of `${{ }}` interpolation in a `run` block, and it's something I watch for in PRs. I also know other people don't watch for this, as I've corrected it about a hundred times. Over the last 10 years my average colleague understands less and less about injection or to watch for it at layer boundaries.
        • chrisjj 2 hours ago
          > Nothing in the PR jumps out as a red flag.

          Made by AI?

  • mhrsntrk 2 hours ago
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  • beyondscale-sha 1 hour ago
    [dead]
  • antiloper 2 hours ago
    Someone forgot to add "make no mistakes!" when triggering autofix /s